Response to Science in Vedas

Written by Sulaiman Razvi

Read New Article Scientific Errors In Hinduism For More Scientific Errors

Vedas contain many scientific errors. Make sure you read the articles Scientific Errors in Vedas Part I and Scientific Errors in Vedas Part II to know about the scientific errors mentioned in Vedas. In this article I will try to refute the so called scientific claim made about Vedas. I am using Hindi translation of Shri Ram Sharma (Gayatri Parivar) and I will be using Arya Samaj translation as well.

CLAIM

Yajur Veda 33.43 ”The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”

RESPONSE:

From the above translation itself we can draw other meanings also for example, it implies that the Earth is following the Sun and they have same orbit. This verse is mistranslated, here is the correct translation,

Yajur Veda 33.43 Throughout the dusky firmament advancing, laying to rest the immortal and the mortal, Borne on his golden chariot he cometh, Savitar, God, beholding living creatures.

 According to Veda the Sun moves alone it does not move taking along other planets,

Yajur Veda 23.10 The Sun moves single and alone…


Above two verses rather says that the Sun moves here and there.

CLAIM: EARTH MOVES AROUND THE SUN

Rig Veda 10.149.1

“The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”

In this mantra,

Savita = Sun

Yantraih = through reins

Prithiveem = Earth

Aramnaat = Ties

Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well

Atoorte = Unbreakable

Baddham = Holds

Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses

RESPONSE:

This verse is also mistranslated by the writer, the correct translation is,

Rig Veda 10.149.1 सविता यन्त्रैः पर्थिवीमरम्णादस्कम्भने सविता दयामद्रंहत अश्वमिवाधुक्षद धुनिमन्तरिक्षमतूर्तेबद्धं सविता समुद्रम

Rig Veda 10.149.1 SAVITAR fixed the earth with bands to bind it

Maharshi Yaska writes,

Nirukta 10.32 ‘’Savitr has fixed the earth with supports; Savitr has fastened heaven in unsupported space…”

This passage from Nirukta makes it more clear which translation is correct.

How can they claim that the earth moves around the sun according to Vedas when the Veda clearly states that the Earth is fixed and it’s the Sun which moves around the Earth. An Indian Scientist named Bhaskaracharya (1114-1185) wrote that the earth is immovable

 

‘’As heat is an inherent property of the Sun and of Fire, as cold of the Moon, fluidity of water, and hardness of stones, and as the air is volatile, so the earth is naturally immovable. For oh! the properties existing on things are wonderful.”-Siddhanta Shiromani Goladhyaaya of Bhaskaracharya, Bhuvankosh, Shloka 5

CLAIM: SUN IS HOLDING UP THE EARTH

Atharva Veda 4.11.1″The sun has held the earth and other planets”


RESPONSE:

The writer has translated the word वृषभ (Vrishab) as SUN, but it is literally translated as Bull, the correct translation for this verse is,

Atharva Veda 4.11.1 The Bull supports the wide-spread earth and heaven, the Bull supports the spacious air between them.


Some Hindus might argue that Vrishab doesn’t mean Bull it means Sun. For the sake of the argument let’s accept it. But a Vedic verse makes an unscientific claim about Vrishab

Atharva Veda 4.5.1, Rig Veda 7.55.7 The Bull [Vrishab/Sun] who hath a thousand horns, who rises up from out the sea


Now let Hindus decide what does Vrishab means. It is also mentioned in Brahmana,

Kausitaki Brahmana 18.9 Him who yonder gives heat they seek by these pressings to obtain; the rising by the morning pressing, (the sun) in the middle (of his course) by the midday pressing, (the sun) as he sets by the third pressing. He, having entered the waters, becomes Varuna.

 

CLAIM:

Rig Veda 1.119.10 “With the help of bipolar forces (Asvins), you should employ telegraphic apparatus made of good conductor of electricity. It is necessary for efficient military operations but should be used with caution.”

RESPONSE:

Rig Veda 1.119.10 “O twin-divines, you give to the infantry the white horses (automobiles) desired by many, the breaker-through of combatants, shining, invincible as the lightning and not to be won over by our enemies in battles or wars, and fit for work in all eventualities.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Saraswati
rv 1.119.10


CLAIM:

Rig Veda 1.6.5, Rig Veda 8.12.30 “O God, You have created this Sun. You possess infinite power. You are upholding the sun and other spheres and render them steadfast by your power of attraction.

Rig Veda 8.12.28 “O Indra! by putting forth your mighty rays, which possess the qualities of gravitation and attraction-illumination and motion – keep up the entire universe in order through the Power of your attraction.”

RESPONSE:

Rig Veda 1.6.5 Thou, Indra, with the Tempest-Gods, the breakers down of what is firm ‘Foundest the kine even in the cave.

rv 1.6.5

This verse is a simile. Griffith has interpreted it as ”The tempest-gods, are the Maruts, the friends and helpers of Indra. The Kine, are streams of water and the beams of light which follow their effusion. The cave is the thick dark cloud which holds the imprisoned waters and which Indra cleaves asunder with his thunderbolt or lighting.”

Griffith correctly interpreted it as his translation is based on commentaries of classical Hindu scholars even though some Aryas criticize him for this verse. Indra here refers to the sun and Maruts means wind. Following is the Arya Samaj translation,

Rig Veda 1.6.5 ”As men carry things and put them in proper places, so the sun scatters his rays with his force and attains (touches) all objects. Then he pierces them and with the winds that break down things, he places them in the middle region.” Tr Acharya Dharmadev Vidya Martanda (Arya Samaj)

Rig Veda 8.12.28 When thy two beautiful Bay Steeds grew great and greater day by day, [30] When yonder Sun, that brilliant light, thou settest in the heaven above, Even then all creatures that had life bowed down to thee.

rv 8.12.28 30

Readers can check Arya Samaj Hindi translation http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda_v4/pages/p304.gif

CLAIM: THE EARTH MOVES AROUND THE SUN

Rig Veda 10.22.14

“This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun.

In this mantra,

Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1)

Ahastaa = without hands

Apadee = without legs

Vardhat = moves ahead

Shushnam Pari = Around the sun

Pradakshinit = revolves

RESPONSE:

First of all this verse isn’t addressed to Earth, it is addressed to Indra. You can read previous and next verses to understand the context of this verse. This verse is quoted out of context.

Rig Veda 10.22.14 When the earth which has neither hands nor feet flourished through the acts of (devotion paid to) the adorable (deities), You [Indra] slewest, turning to the right, for the welfare of every living man.


The writer distorted the translation as well as the meaning of this verse, it states that the Vedic god Indra after moving around the earth slew his enemies. This verse can also be interpreted as the Sun moves around the earth killing bacteria because Indra is sometime translated as Sun by scholars. The Arya Samaj commentary also doesn’t state anything like the earth moves ahead it only states that the earth devoid of hands and feet flourished and ‘You surrounding the earth forces the cloud to cause rain for the welfare of the people” readers can check the verses in aryasamajjamnagar.org.

CLAIM: MOON REFLECTS SUN LIGHT

Rig Veda 10.85.9 ”Moon decided to marry. Day and Night attended its wedding. And sun gifted his daughter Sun ray to Moon.”

RESPONSE:

There is no Sanskrit word which can be translated as ‘Sun Ray’ here, It says that Savitri gifted Surya to Soma, not sun’s rays as they have claimed,

Rig Veda 10.85.9 Soma was desirous of a bride; the two Aswins were the two groomsmen when Savitri gifted Surya, who was ripe for a husband, to Soma (endowed) with intelligence.


Yaska also writes,

Nirukta 12.8 ”There is a Brahmana passage:Savitr gave Surya in marriage to King Soma, or to Prajapati.”

As we can see here Yaska also makes no mention about gifting sun ‘Rays’ to Moon (Soma). It is mentioned in Aitareya Brahmana,

Aitareya Brahmana book 4, para 7 ”Prajapati gave his daughter Surya Savritri in marriage to the king Soma. All the gods came as paranymphs. Prajapati formed according to the model of a Vahatu, i.e. things (such as turmeric powder, &c. to be carried before the paranymphs)…”

So where does it say that sun gifted its rays to the moon? Moreover going by the writer’s distorted translation, how can gifting sun Ray be interpreted as “Reflection”? Because if you gift something to someone that means that gift will be with the person to whom you have presented it. Many verses of this hymn are about marriage ceremony. It doesn’t contain any scientific verse although there’s hardly any science in Vedas.


CLAIM

Rig Veda 1.35.9 “The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.

RESPONSE:

That verse is also mistranslated, The verse actually says the Sun moves around the Earth and Heaven,

Rig Veda 1.35.9 The golden-handed Savitar [Sun], far-seeing, goes on his way between the earth and heaven, Drives away sickness, bids the Sun approach us, and spreads the bright sky through the darksome region.

Following is the Arya Samaj translation,

Rig Veda 1.35.9 ”The gold-handed, all-beholding luminary travels between the two regions of heaven and earth, dispels diseases, and this, verily, is known as the sun, and it finally overspreads the sky, extending from the dark interspace to the celestial region”. Tr. SatyaPrakash Saraswati.

CLAIM: EARTH IS OBLATE/SPHERICAL

Rig Veda 1.33.8 ..people who reside on the surface of earth circumference…

RESPONSE:

Correct translation is,

Rig Veda 1.33.8 Adorned with their array of gold and jewels, they o’er the earth a covering veil extended. Although they hastened, they o’ercame not Indra: their spies he compassed with the Sun of morning.

Following is the Arya Samaj translation,

Rig Veda 1.33.8 ”As the clouds trying to cover the light of the sun and to envelop the earth, can not overcome the sun who is decorated with gold and jewels (so to speaks in the same manner, all should endeavour in such a way that the enemies may not be able to harm the commanders of their armies).” Tr. Acharya Dharmadeva Vidya Martanda

http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/pages/p182.gif The Arya Samaj’s Hindi translation does not even talk about people.

CLAIM

Rig Veda 1.164.13

“Sun moves in its orbit which itself is moving. Earth and other bodies move around sun due to force of attraction, because sun is heavier than them.

Response

This verse is also mistranslated, The writer is forcefully putting science into his Vedas by mistranslating the verses, He should honestly admit that Vedas are unscientific if he doesn’t find any scientific verse rather than deceiving innocent people. However here is the correct translation for the verse

Rig Veda 1.164.13 Upon this five-spoked wheel revolving ever all living creatures rest and are dependent. Its axle, heavy-laden, is not heated: the nave from ancient time remains unbroken.

      

This is a simile. According to some scholars the five spokes here denotes five seasons, Sayana Acharya has explained the wheel as the year and the five spokes as five seasons. Yaska also writes,

Nirukta 4.27 “When the five-spoked wheel began to roll. This is with reference to the five seasons. There is a Brahmana passage: There are five seasons in the year, taking the winter and the dewy season together.”

While according to other scholars (of Arya Samaj) the wheel is of time and the ‘Five’ denotes the five elements of nature, here is the Arya Samaj translation,

Rig Veda 1.164.13 ”All space planets and Panchabhootas abide in this five-spoked (the five spokes are the five elements) revolving wheel of Time. It’s heavily loaded axle is never heated. The Time is heavily laden (so to speak) and has God as a support (axle) and it has no wear and tear.” Tr. Acharya Dharmadev Vidya Martanda

http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/pages/p829.gif

Some Hindus (Arya Samajis) say that Dayanand Saraswati foresaw  airplane even before the Wright brothers invented it. This is wrong because Glider was built many centuries before the birth of Dayanand, there is lot of similarity between a glider and airplane and considering the fact wright brothers modified the glider into an airplane. The Glider dates back to 9th century which was flown by Abbas Ibn Firnas and in 1804 another innovator named George Cayle had built several models of glider. So it is incorrect to say Dayanand had foreseen the airplane as gliders were already present. Talking about the scientific knowledge Dayanand possessed, it is mentioned in his book Satyarth Prakash Chapter no 8 that Human being exists on Sun, Moon and other planets. 

”39. What are the sun, the moon and the stars?

Q. Are they inhabited by man and other living creatures or not?

A. They are the worlds inhabited by men and other living beings…”- Satyarth Prakash, Swami Dayanand Saraswati, Ch 8, p.271, Tr. Chiranjiva Bhardwaja.

He also wrote that sky looks blue in color because it has water particles, and that the atmosphere has particles of earth and fire (Agni),

”6. Is it not ether, then, that you see in the sky above, blue and dusty? A.- No. 1.

What is it then?

A. It is the fine particles of earth, Water and Agni (in the atmosphere). The blue colour is  mainly due to the particles of water in the atmosphere that come down as rain, while the dusty appearance is due to the particles of dust which is carried up from the earth and floats about the air. It is these things that are seen and reflected in water in a mirror, and not ether.”- Satyarth Prakash, Swami Dayanand Saraswati, Ch 8, p.276, Tr. Chiranjiva Bhardwaja.

 

CLAIM:

Athara-veda 20.100.3 is astounding, it says, air is the carrier of words (sound), and we know, this is scientifically proven that sound needs medium to travel, it couldn’t travel in vacuum.  By this, it is so clear that Hindu sages knew about air particles which acts as carrier (medium) of sound. Even Rigveda 8.91.5 & 1.143.5 says similar.

RESPONSE:

From where is he deriving all these meanings? If Vedic deities Maruts speaking means air is the carrier of words then does that mean air carries up the heaven and earth?

Rig Veda 8.83.11 The Maruts, those who have sustained and propped the heavens and earth apart…

Atharva Veda 20.100.3 which the author quoted reads as follows,

Atharva Veda 20.100.3 “With holy song they bind to the broad wide-yoked car the bay steeds of the rapid God, Bearers of India, yoked by prayer.” Tr. Ralph T.H. Griffith

Following is the Hindi translation by Shri Ram Sharma Acharya,

This verse is also repeated in Rig Veda which reads as,

Rig Veda 8.87.9 “With holy song mey bind to the broad wide-yoked car the Bay Steeds of the rapid God, Bearers of Indra, yoked by word.” Ralph. T.H. Griffith

Following is the Hindi translation by Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi,

Actually the writer has relied this on Arya Samaji translation who don’t believe that Maruts, Agni etc. are gods but elements and also uses some words like electricity which are modern but doesn’t exist in the Vedas.

CLAIM:

Rig Veda (3.9.1) talks about the fundamental of Latent Heat which is responsible for holding water into clouds. And this must be noted that modern science has discovered about Latent Heat roughly 250 years ago whereas Hindus not only knew about it but even knew it’s property responsible for holding rainwater into clouds.

RESPONSE:

Rig Veda 3.9.1 “We thy mortal friends have recourse for our protection to thee, the divine, the grandson of the waters, the auspicious, the resplendent, the accessible, the sinless.” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Following are the Arya Samaj translations,

Rig Veda 3.9.1 “O preacher! we thoughtful persons are friendly to one another and choose you for our protection. You are indestructible, as the soul in the Pranas (vital breaths) is non-violent non procrastinating but doing all works quickly. Shining with the light of true knowledge and humility, you are blessed with good wealth and are highly learned.” Tr. Acharya Dharma Deva Vidya Martanda

Rig Veda 3.9.1 “We as your mortal friends choose you, the divine, for our protection. You are imperishable life force auspicious, resplendent, the best guide and sinless and such take us across the miseries.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Saraswati

None of them say anything like the writer claims, it’s the distortion of the translation made by the translator. And I am only commenting on the translation.

CLAIM:

Doctors suggest us to drink more water in order to prevent & cure heart diseases, the same solution is described in Athara-veda 6.24.1

RESPONSE:

This is talking about a specific waters that flows from hills of snow and meet in Sindhu. Doctors recommends drinking adequate amount of water for better health but which scientific research proves that water can cure heart disease, ruptures in eye, heels and toes? If water could cure heart disease then why do we need medicines, why don’t doctors just provide a bottle of water to the patient?

Atharva Veda 6.24.1-3 “Forth from the Hills of Snow they stream, and meet in Sindhu here or there. To me the sacred Waters gave the balm that heals the heart’s disease. Whatever rupture I have had that injured eyes or heels or toes. All this the Waters, skilfullest physicians, shall make well again, All Rivers who have Sindhu for your Lady, Sindhu for your Queen, Give us the balm that heals this ill: this boon let us enjoy from you.” Tr. Ralph. T.H. Griffith

Arya Samaj translation,
Atharva Veda 6.24.1-3 “The currents of water stream from hills covered with snow and meet in the river or sea together. These pure waters certainly provide me with the medicine curing the pain of heart. These waters are most skilful physician amongst physician or most powerful medicine of all medicines. Let them remove all the rapture which injures my eyes, which injures my heels and which injures my toes. Let all the rivers which maintain the continuity of their flow always, which are in spate with mighty flow provide us with the balm that heals the ill and may we enjoy this boon from them.” Tr. Acharya Vaidyanath Shastri

CLAIM:

Ait Upnishad 1.1.4 says, In embryo, 1st mouth is formed then nostrils then eyes then ears then heart then umbilical cord then genetic organs. This order of development is as-it-is accepted by Modern Science.

RESPONSE:

First let me provide the English translation,

Aitareya Upanishad 1.1.4 “He brooded over Him. From Him, so brooded over, the mouth was separated out, as with an egg; form the month, the organ of speech; from speech, fire, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the nostrils were separated out; from the nostrils, the organ of breath; from breath, air, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the eyes were separated out; from the eyes, the organ of sight; from sight, the sun, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the ears were separated out; from the ears, the organ of hearing; from hearing, the quarters of space, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the skin was separated out; from the skin, hairs, the organ of touch; from the hairs, plants and trees, air the controlling deity of the organs. Then the heart was separated out; from the heart, the organ of the mind; from the mind, the moon, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the navel was separated out; from the navel, the organ of the apana; from the apana, Death, Varuna, the controlling deity of the organ. Then the virile member was separated out; from the virile member, semen, the organ of generation; from the semen, the waters, the controlling deity of the organ.”

The writer said that, “1st mouth is formed then nostrils then eyes then ears then heart” whereas the heart starts developing earlier than eyes and ears,

Week 5 “Your baby’s heart and a primitive circulatory system will form in the middle layer of cells — the mesoderm.”
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302

Week 6 “Structures necessary to the development of the eyes and ears develop.”
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302

Week 7 “Depressions that will give rise to nostrils become visible”
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302?pg=2

Although the Mayo Clinic links I posted are more authentic and reliable, I will post another link,
http://www.cpmc.org/services/pregnancy/information/fetal_development.html

CLAIM:

Rig Veda (1.50.11) says that Sun Rays ends several diseases of body which is no more a hidden truth. We know people of European continent or those places where sun light is not as sufficient as in India (south Asia) they go for beach and spend their time so that their body can absorb enough Heat in required manner.

RESPONSE:

It’s a prayer made to the sun to remove diseases, it asks the sun to remove heart disease and paleness of the skin. Do any scientific research proves that the sun rays directly cures heart diseases?

Rig Veda 1.50.11 “Radiant with benevolent light, rising to day and mounting into the highest heaven, do thou, O Sun, remove the sickness of my heart, and the yellowness (of my body).” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 1.50.11 “Radiant with benevolent virtues, rising and mounting into the highest moral values, O self-radiant God, remove the sickness of my heart and paleness of my body.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati

CLAIM:

If we study Rig Veda (1.56.2), it clarifies that ancient Hindus knew about the knowledge of several jewels and treasures hidden inside sea, since long ago. Interesting point is how those sages went deep inside sea without any suit equipped with oxygen?

RESPONSE:

What is so “Scientific” about this? Where does it say that Rishis used to jump in sea and ocean to look for the treasure? It only talks about people thronging at seas for treasure hunting which means that marine treasure hunting existed during the time Vedas were composed, and how come this is included in Science by Hinduism article? People used to do Marine treasure Hunting in medieval period also, here is the passage taken from Wikipedia,

In 1643 Captain William Phips salvaged one of the sunken Spanish treasure ships forty-four years after they were wrecked on Silver Shoals. At the time, the salvages wreck was worth twelve millions dollars.[1] The Nuestra Señora de Atocha left Havana bound for Spain in 1622 and sank. Mel Fisher and his crew spent sixteen years searching for the treasure that was aboard the Nuestra Señora de Atocha. Three silver bars were found in 1973, five bronze cannons were found in 1975, and in 1980 a wooden hull weighted down by ballast stones, iron cannon balls and artifacts of 17th century Spain were found.[2] The S.S. Central America sank after running into a hurricane off the Carolina coast in 1857. In 1987 Thomas G. Thompson discovered the ship’s location. A remotely operated vehicle surfaced more than forty million dollars in gold from the sunken ship.[3] In 1782 the British Frigate Grosvenor sank in Natal Bay, East Africa, carrying treasure cargo of 2,000 silver ingots, 720 gold ingots, and jewels including the fabulous “golden peacocks” from the throne of the Great Mogul, at Delhi, India.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_hunting_(marine)

CLAIM:

Vishnu Puran  2.8.12-15 & Aitareya Brahmana 2.7 says, Sun neither rises nor sets People call it ‘Sunrise’ & ‘Sunset’ by seeing position of Sun at Morning & evening.

RESPONSE:

Let’s read entire chapter first,

Vishnu Purana 2.8 “…The glorious sun, Maitreya, darts like an arrow on his southern course, attended by the constellations of the Zodiac…When the sun (at midday) passes over either of the cities of the gods, on the Mánasottara mountain (at the cardinal points), his light extends to three cities and two intermediate points…From the period of his rise the sun moves with increasing rays until noon, when he proceeds towards his setting with rays diminishing…When the sun has travelled in the centre of Pushkara a thirtieth part of the circumference of the globe, his course is equal in time to one Muhúrtta; and whirling round like the circumference of the wheel of a potter, he distributes day and night upon the earth…After he has passed through these, the sun attains his equinoctial movement (the vernal equinox), when he makes the day and night of equal duration…As the circumference of a potter’s wheel revolves most rapidly, so the sun travels rapidly on his southern journey: he flies along his path with the velocity of wind, and traverses a great distance in a short time. In twelve Muhúrttas he passes through thirteen lunar asterisms and a half during the day; and during the night he passes through the same distance, only in eighteen Muhúrttas. As the centre of the potter’s wheel revolves more slowly than the circumference, so the sun in his northern path again revolves with less rapidity, and moves over a less space of the earth in a longer time, until, at the end of his northern route, the day is again eighteen Muhúrttas, and the night twelve; the sun passing through half the lunar mansions by day and by night in those periods respectively…”

These verses are clear about the Sun revolving around the Earth. Aren’t they? This is either a contradiction or the verse quoted by apologist is trying to clarify that the sun always exists and doesn’t disappear. I can say for sure that according to Hinduism the sun moves around the earth, apart from posting the same verse repeated in different scriptures the apologist cannot quote other verses about sun neither setting nor rising, while I can quote dozens of verses about sun revolving around the earth and the sun going here and there. The same chapter itself describes the movements of sun especially the sun revolving around the earth. Then he quotes Aitareya Brahmana which says the same, but do he know that Aitareya Brahmana says that Sun dips in water,

Aitareya Brahma Book 4, Chapter 20, verse 13 “…This (Aditya, the sun) is ‘the swan sitting in light’…he is ‘born from the waters’ (abja), for in the morning he comes out of the waters, and in the evening he enters the waters.”

CLAIM:

The discovery of water on Moon has been done very recently (that too was done by an Indian craft called ‘Chandrayaan’) but Viṣṇu Purāṇa 2.9.10 described it long ago. It talks about Water on moon’s surface & role played by sun.

RESPONSE:

First let’s read the verse,

Vishnu Purana Book 2, Chapter 9 “During eight months of the year the sun attracts the waters, which are the essence of all fluids, and then pours them upon earths (during the other four months) as rain: from rain grows corn; and by corn the whole world subsists. The sun with his scorching rays absorbs the moisture of the earth, and with them nourishes the moon. The moon communicates, through tubes of air, its dews to the clouds, which, being composed of smoke, fire, and wind (or vapour), can retain the waters with which they are charged: they are therefore called Abhras, because their contents are not dispersed. When however they are broken to pieces by the wind, then watery stores descend, bland, and freed front every impurity by the sweetening process of time.”

This is not a scientific fact but scientific error mentioned in Vishnu Purana which says that water is transferred to the moon which then pours down to clouds and responsible for causing rain. For more information read my article Scientific Errors in Hinduism. Following is the same verse repeated in Vayu Purana in much simpler language,

Vayu Purana I.51.14-15 “The water drunk in by the sun gets transferred to the moon from the solar fire. Through the Nadis (tubular veins) full of wind the activity of sustaining the worlds begins. What exudes from the moon, the sun receives at its tips. When the wind blows the clouds let it shower on the earth.” Tr. G.V. Tagare, Edited by G.P Bhatt

CLAIM:

Rig Veda 8.18.9 says that let the air be free of diseases. The noteworthy point is, those noble sages knew that even air contains diseases. In medical terms,  we call it ‘airborne diseases’ which transmits through air.

RESPONSE:

The verse only prays for the wind to blow sweet and fragrant smell and drive away the enemies,

Rig Veda 8.18.9 “May Agni with his fires grant us happiness: may the sun beam upon us felicity: may the unoffending wind blow us happiness: (may they all drive) away our foes.” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 8.18.9 “May Agni bless us with his fires, and Sūrya warm us pleasantly: May the pure Wind breathe sweet on us, and chase our foes.” Tr. Ralph T.H. Griffith

Following is the Hindi translation by Shri Ram Sharma Acharya,

Following is the Hindi translation by Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi,

CLAIM:

If we read chapter 104 of  BHAVISHYA PURAN it very clearly mention about Seven Continents and Seven Oceans of Earth with their names. {This all are very clear evidences which repeatedly proves that Vedas, Puran and other scriptures (Hindu) are words of God. Because it’s truly miraculous that without the help of anysatellite image anybody could describe Geographical Map (with everything right in it) of entire world.}

RESPONSE:

This is not a scientific fact but an error. Earth in Puranas is a flat circular disc with mount Meru in the middle and 7 islands or continents surrounding it which are separated from each other by seven oceans. You will understand it better if you read following two verses from Puranas,

Vishnu Purana 2.2 “PARÁŚARA.–You shall hear, Maitreya, a brief account of the earth from me: a full detail I could not give you in a century. The seven great insular continents are Jambu, Plaksha, Sálmali, Kuśa, Krauncha, Śáka, and Pushkara: and they are surrounded severally by seven great seas; the sea of salt water (Lavańa), of sugar-cane juice (Ikshu), of wine (Surá), of clarified butter (Sarpi), of curds (Dadhi), of milk (Dugdha), and of fresh water (Jala). Jambu-dwípa is in the centre of all these: and in the centre of this continent is the golden mountain Meru…The capital of Brahma is enclosed by the river Ganges, which, issuing from the foot of Vishńu, and washing the lunar orb, falls here from the skies…”

Brahmanda Purana I.2.21.13-16 “…The extent of the earth towards all the sides (quarters) from the middle of the Meru is remembered as one crore and eightynine lakhs (of Yojanas)…” Tr. G.V. Tagare

For more information read my article Scientific Errors in Hinduism.

CLAIM:

Now, something very big and nearly perfect. If we read Hanuman Chalisa (A small holy Scripture which consists only 40 verses) we get the distance between Earth and Sun. This is one of the most scientific facts you can attain.

RESPONSE:

It’s ironic that now the writer is using 1 Yojana = 8 miles unit while denied knowing the exact measurement of 1 Yojana in another article. Hanuman Chalisa was written in 16th century, Puranas which are older than this has given completely different distance between earth and sun. For more information read my article Scientific Errors In Hinduism. There are four Yugas in Hinduism, Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali. Each Yuga has different measurement like 4,800 Divine years (or 1,728,000 human years) of Satya Yuga, 3,600 divine years (or 1,296,000 human years) of Treta Yuga, 2,400 divine years (or 864,000 human years) of Dvapara Yuga and 1,200 divine years (or 432,000 human years) of Kali Yuga and this is as per Vishnu Purana book 1 chapter 3. Now even the divine years of Kali Yuga is just 1,200 years while the number given above is 12000 and Kali Yuga is 432,000 of human years. Swami Prabhupada writes,

“As aforementioned, one year of the demigods is equal to 360 years of the human beings. The duration of the Satya-yuga is therefore 4,800 × 360, or 1,728,000 years. The duration of the Tretā-yuga is 3,600 × 360, or 1,296,000 years. The duration of the Dvāpara-yuga is 2,400 × 360, or 864,000 years. And the last, the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 × 360, or 432,000 years.” Swami Prabhupada on Srimad Bhagavatam 3.11.19
https://www.vedabase.com/en/sb/3/11/19

We 12000 if we add all Yugas but that is of Devas years, human years of all four Yuga is a lot more. Hindu writers should provide details about the units they are mentioning. It’s ironic that Hindus are relying on this Hanuman Chalisa but turns blind eye to numerous Puranas which clearly gives wrong distance between planets.

CLAIM:

Rig Veda (1.116.15) surprised me a lot. It is about surgery. It describes an instance where a woman who was fighting war got injured and then Ashwin brothers gave her leg of irons. This is the same method used by doctors in modern time.

RESPONSE:

Wilson wrote “It is only added, in the notes, that Khela was a king, of whom Agastya was the purohita; and it was through his prayers that the Aswins gave Vispala an iron leg.”

Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati wrote, “According to legend, Khila was a king, of whom Agastya was a purohita, and it was through his prayers, that the Asvins gave Vispala an iron leg.

So which surgery restores a leg with prayers? Rig Veda 1.116.12; Satapatha Brahmana 14.1.1.20-25; Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 2.5.16-17 and Devi Bhagavatam 7.36.28 says that Asvins put a horse’s head on Muni Dadhyam’s body. Which science proves fixing animal’s head on human body?

CLAIM:

Rigved 1.108.1 talks about such planes (रथः- विमान) through which sages could travel to other planets (भुवनानि).

RESPONSE:

If such interplanetary planes existed, then where did Hindus loose the technology? And also it is about Indra and Agni not about sages.

Rig Veda 1.108.1 “Indra and Agni, sitting together, in your car, that wonderful car which illuminates all beings, approach, and drink of the effused Soma juice.” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 1.108.1 “O resplendent self and supreme mind, sitting in this chariot of your body, you perceive all the worlds. May both of you come seated in this chariot and enjoy the essence extracted from the environments.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati

Vedas also talks about Sun moving in a chariot, the writer may claim that it was also some sort of plane.

CLAIM:

If we read Rig Veda (1.127.3), we come to know that the idea of EXPLOSION (with help of heat) was invented and used long before in Vedic Periods.

RESPONSE:

Some Hindus also claimed that Rishis invented nuclear bombs thousands of years ago. Such things has no basis. And if you read the verse you will see that there is no explosion mentioned in the verse rather it talks about Vedic deity Agni killing his enemies,

Rig Veda 1.127.3 “Verily, that Agni, far shining with brilliant vigour, is the destroyer of foes, like a hatchet that cuts down trees: whatever is most solid and stable dissolves like water at his contact: unsparing, he sports (amidst enemies), nor desists (from their destruction), like an archer who retreats not (from battle).” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 1.127.3 “Verily, that fire-divine, shining far with brilliant vigour, is the destroyer of foes. He like a hatchet cuts down trees. What is not solid and stable melts like water at his touch. Vanquishing the enemies, He stands firm and, like an archer, does not retreat.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Saraswati

CLAIM:

When we study Rig Veda (1.27.6), we come to know that Vedic sages knew something even about Water Particles (well, it’s surprising that sages even knew about those water particles which couldn’t be seen without help of Microscope).

RESPONSE

It’s not about particles but about waves,

Rig Veda 1.27.6 “Thou, Chitrabhanu, art the distributor of riches; as the waves of a river are parted by interjacent (islets). Thou ever pourest (rewards) upon the giver (of oblations).” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 1.27.6 “You are the possessor of wonderful radiance. You are the dispenser of blessings like the waves of a river, parted by interjacent (islets) and you generously shower your blessings on the person who completely surrenders to you.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati

Following is the Hindi translation by Shri Ram Sharma Acharya,

CLAIM:

Rig Veda (4.6.5) suggest us that invention of Injection was already done in Vedic era. It even suggests that people knew how to cure toxic injected in body.

RESPONSE:

First of all the reference is wrong, it is Atharva Veda not Rig Veda,

Atharva Veda 4.6.5 “I, the physician make poison ineffectual with the use of the leaf and the plaster of the Parnadhi, the medicinal plant (known as Lodhra). I remove the effect of poison by the herb Shring (known as Ajashringi) brought away from the distant place and I make the poison ineffectual by the use of Kulmala, a herb of this name.” Tr. Acharya Vaidyanath Shastri

Nowhere it talks about injections, if you read previous and next verses you will know that it is about a poisonous arrow.

Atharva Veda 4.6.6 “Let the end of the arrows be poison les, let the poison itself lose its poisonous effect, let bow made of the poison less tree, belonging to you, O man be free from the effect of poison.” Tr. Acharya Vaidyanath Shastri

CLAIM:

Rig Veda 2.15.2 is noteworthy, it says, Universe is expanding. I think, if one don’t consider Vedas as Sacred then he/she must contemplative that how this tremendous knowledge of astronomy could be attained by anyone at that time when half of the world was not even civilised?

RESPONSE:

Nowhere it says that the universe is expanding,

Rig Veda 2.15.2 “Who fixed the heaven in unsupported (space), and filled the spacious firmament, and heaven, and earth, (with light): he it is who has upheld and has made the earth renowed: in the exhilaration of the Soma, Indra has done these (deeds).” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 2.15.2 “He establishes heaven in the supportless space. With His power, He fills the inter-space, heaven and earth (with His light). He has upheld and extended the wide earth. All this He does in the ecstasy of His benign bliss.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati

Following is the Hindi translation by Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi,

CLAIM:

This is great to know that people (only of Indus civilisation) used to stop river flow to use it for their own purpose/convenience like we do it today by constructing Dam. Rig Veda (3.53.9) clearly indicates toward that.

RESPONSE:

Does it say that they built dams to regulate rivers? This verse is talking about Vishwamitra controlling rivers, other verses shows that he stopped rivers just by his command and since the writer included this in Science by Hinduism I would like to know how scientific is it? Following verses are from different Sukta about Vishwamitra stopping rivers just by his command,

Rig Veda 3.33.5 “[The sage speaks] I, the disciple of an enlightened teacher, having acquired necessary knowledge, now desirous of protection, solicit your favour and address with earnest prayer to you the rivers before me. O rivers, charged with water, rest a moment from your course at my request.” Tr. SatyaPrakash Saraswati

Nirukta 2.24 “The seer Visvamitra was the domestic priest of Sudas, the son of Pijavana. Visva-mitra, friend of all…He, i.e. Visvamitra, implored the rivers to become fordable. (He addressed them) in the dual as well as in the plural number.”

CLAIM:

Rig Veda (6.57.4) has revealed that rainwater contains several nutritious elements in it long before than modern science.

RESPONSE:

Nowhere it says that rainwater contains nutritious elements,

Rig Veda 6.57.4 “When showerer of Indra sends down the falling and mighty waters, there is Pushan along with him.” Tr. H.H. Wilson

Rig Veda 6.57.4 “When the showerer, the resplendent sun of the northern solstice, sends down the streams and might water-floods, the divine nourishing sun also joins with him.” Tr. Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati

Following is the Hindi translation by Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi,

CLAIM:

Rigveda 1.19.8 says that Maruts (Winds) agitate the ocean. This is scientifically accurate. We know, wind plays most crucial role in moving ocean current.

RESPONSE:

One doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to understand such simple phenomenon. Moreover this is mainly addressed to Agni so writer must prove that Fire along with Wind are responsible for moving ocean current.

CLAIM:

Rigved 1.164.11 is one of my favourite and most surprising. It has much science stored in it. First, it tell us that Sun has one orbit. Next, to design a calender has been most tough task for any civilization. One of the perfect calender was designed by great Hindu Mathematician Aryabhata. But long before Aryabhata, the Vedas have revealed the correct division of time with respect to Sun (Solar Calendar). The verse further says that the sun wheel has 12 spokes (which is 12 months) and 720 sons (360 days + 360 nights) which is approximately a year.

RESPONSE:

The writer may be even more surprised to know that Hinduism says the sun moves around the earth. I know that calendar is very old but where did he get this idea of 720 sons means 360 days + 360 nights? Why it can’t be like 720 days? Following passage is taken from Wikipedia,

Archeologists have reconstructed methods of timekeeping that go back to prehistoric periods at least as old as the Neolithic. The natural units for timekeeping used by most historical societies are the day, the solar year and the lunationCalendars are explicit schemes used for timekeeping. The first historically attested and formulised calendars date to the Bronze Age, dependent on the development of writing in the Ancient Near East, the Sumerian being the earliest, followed by EgyptianAssyrian and Elamite calendars.

A larger number of calendar systems of the Ancient Near East appear in the Iron Agearchaeological record, based on the Assyrian and Babylonian calendar. This includes the calendar of the Persian Empire, which in turn gave rise to the Zoroastrian calendar as well as the Hebrew calendar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calendars

CLAIM:

Bhagvat Puran (3.11.1) discovers the atom and also defines it accurately. In modern history J.J Thomson is being credited for discovery of Atoms but they were Hindus who actually discovered it first.

RESPONSE:

The word Atom was coined by the Greeks and this was discovered thousands of years ago, refer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

While Brahma Sutra II.2.12-17 do not subscribe to the atomic theory of the Vaisesikas.

CLAIM:

Bhagvat Puran (3.6.1-7) is absolutely knowledgeable. It talks about the creation of a baby, it even mention the number 23 chromosomesfrom each (sperm and egg).  Now it’s truly amazing that Hindus century ago knew about this biological process.

RESPONSE:

Does it really talk about 23 chromosomes? No! Rather it says that,

Srimad Bhagavatam 3.6.2 “Having seen the state of his existing potencies that they were disparate and that their power of creating the universe lay dormant, the Supreme Lord of miraculous deeds bearing with him divine power called time (which has no separate existence from him) entered simultaneously the group of twenty-three principles (viz. mahat+egohood+5 subtle elements+5 gross elements+ 10 organs of senses both conative and cognitive+mind).” Tr. G.V. Tagare

Swami Prabhupada writes,
“The ingredients of matter are counted as twenty-three: the total material energy, false ego, sound, touch, form, taste, smell, earth, water, fire, air, sky, eye, ear, nose, tongue, skin, hand, leg, evacuating organ, genitals, speech and mind. All are combined together by the influence of time and are again dissolved in the course of time…” Swami Prabhupada on Srimad Bhagavatam 3.6.2
https://www.vedabase.com/en/sb/3/6/2

Do our chromosome contains earth, water, fire, air, sky? If you read all six verses you will know that it no where talks about creation of a baby.

CLAIM:

The Bhagvat Puran (3.26.55) reveals that our ears are responsible for recognizing the directions. This is proved by modern science after 1935. So, with this we can even conclude that our sages were more advanced than what we are today.

RESPONSE:

The writer should provide links for his claims, he can’t just say that scientists have discovered it that’s it. Bhagavata Purana 3.26.55 is about the Supreme God taking birth from a egg who is thus called self-born and the verse says that he got sense of hearing from where came the presiding deities of directions.

CLAIM:

Atharva Veda 10.1.26 reveals that sages not only about Treasure but also knew about several Mineral Substance which are found deep underground.

Now we must notice that even at that time Hindus have methods for deep mining (Because these things are found deep in Earth). And not only that but they also had great knowledge of Mineral Substance (Treasure could be seen with naked eyes but not Minerals, so it means they had knowledge of Mineral substance).

RESPONSE:

First of all the, either the translation or reference number is wrong, following is the Hindi translation of Atharva Veda 10.1.26 by Shri Ram Sharma,

Atharva Veda 10.1.26 “Let this device go, let it not stay, let it pursue the makers foot as the hunter pursues the track of wounded animal prey. The enemy is the prey and this device is hunter, the prey can not humble the hunter.” Tr. Acharya Vaidyanath Shastri

If you read verses 18-19 you will know that it is talking about a spell,

Knowing about treasure under the ground is nothing surprising as people in ancient period buried their valuables under the ground.

CLAIM:

Atharva Veda 21.6.4 described the concept of ‘multi universe‘ long ago which is accept by Science.

RESPONSE:

Has he printed a new version of Atharva Veda or what? There is no 21st Kaanda in Atharva Veda there are only total number of 20 Kaandas in Atharva Veda.

CLAIM:

Yajurveda 3.6 & Markandey Puran 78.9 clearly describes Earth shape as Spherical (like egg)  and says that it moves (turns) around Sun. 

In Yajurveda 3.6, the word used for  ‘Earth’ is ‘गौ’ & the word used for ‘Sun’ is ‘स्वरिति’, in case of confusion, readers may also refer to Satapatha Brahmana  (which is an explanation of Vedas) 2.1.4.29 where similar words are used to denote Earth & Sun. Moreover, Nighantu 1.1 clearly described that ‘गौ’ refers to ‘Earth’ & Nirukta 2.14 describes that ‘स्वर’ refers to ‘Sun’.

Not only Hindus knew that Earth is spherical, but they even knew that Earth is not perfectly spherical. We know, the North Pole & South Pole are quite flattened. This is exactly what Markandey Puran 54.12 says:

RESPONSE:

The Hindi translation of Arya Samaj he mentioned translated Gau as spherical earth. The earth is sometimes referred as Gau in Vedas but from where did they derive the definition “Spherical earth” from Gau? Even the writer failed to furnish any reference proving that Gau means spherical earth. Hindi translation by Shri Ram Sharma Acharya doesn’t state anything like moving earth or spherical earth,

Hindi translation by Swami Karpatri Maharaj also doesn’t say anything like that,

Do he accept that the sun is revolving around the earth as the Markandeya 78.9 verse he quoted says that the Sun revolves above the world? Coming to the point, the egg described here is the source of creation and here referring to the universe and not describing the shape of the earth as egg, read the Hindi translation below,

You will understand it better if you read the following verse from Markandeya Purana,

Markandeya Purana 46.1-2 “Adorable Sir! thou hast related to me correctly the genesis of the egg, and thou hast told me of the birth of the mighty Soul Brahma within the egg of Brahma…”

Where does Markandeya Purana 58.12 says that earth is not perfectly spherical? He himself quoted the verse which only says that it is highly elevated in the middle. Does that prove that earth is oblate shaped? The irony is that if Purana says the earth is shaped like lotus, leaf of lotus then it doesn’t really describe the shape of earth but the Markandeya verse which talks about creation egg is describing the shape of earth, Oxford Press should invent a new word for this high level of hypocrisy.

Some also quote Rig Veda 3.5.5 to show that earth is moving as per the Vedas which is not true. There is no word which can be translated as moving hence Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi and Shri Ram Sharma Acharya has not translated it anything like that, following is the Hindi translation of Rig Veda 3.5.5 by Pandit Ram Govind Trivedi,

Following is the Hindi translation by Shri Ram Sharma Acharya,

Following is the Hindi translation by Shripad Damodar Satvalekar (Arya Samaj),

For details on unscientific claims in Vedas, read the article Scientific Errors in Vedas

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